having an election once a while does not a western liberal democracy make


By jandrsimonson
January 27, 2011
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Having an election once in a while does not a Western Liberal Democracy make.

The most obsessively compulsive blogger on here recently told us that " democracy is the tyranny of the

majority"

NO !!

That may be what Israeli democracy is but it is precisely what western liberal democracy is NOT. The setting up of a committee to investigate and harass legal organisations whose view of what Israel should be is different to that of a majority of the knesset is behaviour completely antithetical to the principles of liberal democracy. That many Israels , or even a majority of Israelis, approve of the move is completely irrelevant.

In a real democracy the rights of minorities whether these be racial, religious or political minorities are protected by a written constitution,and /or custom and practice and a judicial system that everyone,including the executive and most importanly, the military,is expected to be' and ultimately compelled to be,subject to.

No western army would get away for example, with ignoring a supreme court ruling that the relevant section of the fence at Bil'in has nothing to do with security but rather a blatant land grab, and a directive to re route it. In this respect the IDF is responsible for all deaths and injuries at Bil'in since this directive was issued and ignored.

Minority rights include the freedom of expression, assembly and organisation within the law. The funding of NGO's is none of the states business except if they are funded by illegal activity such as drug dealing etc. I am free to campaign for the abolition of the monarchy, the dissolution of the state, the absorbtion of the state into North Korea , pretty well any damn thing I want, without direct harassment,or indirect harassment by the setting up of a threatening,sinister macarthy like committee to investigate my funding.

In the west we have the right to any opinions we may arrive at and to organise to facilitate their expression short of expressions of religious, racial hatred etc. In setting up this committee Israel shows it's true colours.

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jose (not verified)

27 January, 2011 - 10:06

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And having a brain does not a genius make!

simonsam is not the only obsessive blogger here, obsessed by criticising the only democracy in the Middle East and condoning all the tyrants and dictators around.

The funding of NGO's is none of the states business except if they are funded by illegal activity such as drug dealing etc.

Well, you should see what UK did to traitors during WW II!
You are a laughable idiot, simonsam. States have a right to defend themselves against all enemies and those who accept money from enemies to carry on their agendas.

NGO should not be politicised as some are. They should not be fighting for a party or ideology but for the human good.
And some are working indeed to help terrorism and rid Israel of the inalienable right to defend itself against aggression.

France investigated the unlawful use of donators' money of a anti-cancer association. No one ever denied France the right to do so. Political organisations were even more controlled and condemned for irregularities in their funding.

Israel has the true colours of democracy and will get rid of the organisations who get funding from tyrants and dictators such as Saudi Arabia and Iran.


Yoni1

27 January, 2011 - 10:10

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ROFL.
The usual nonsensical, sloganeering, shrill Israel-bashing from someone who has no clue what MacCarthyism means.
When an organisation has a special status in law, e.g. a charitable status, the state is entitled to look into its sources of income. Indeed, that applies even if it has no special status. This has eff all to do with muzzling it, which is what MacCarthyism is.

There are many British 'charitable' organisations that are fronts for terrorism. The UK's Charity Commission is a sad joke, consisting of eternal placemen and chinless amateurs and professional idiots who have never done a proper day's work in their lives. It would be great if it did in the UK what is proposed to be done in Israel, but it won't because it's useless and cowardly and hypocritical like so many other such British bodies.


amber

27 January, 2011 - 10:37

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simonsam - the hallmarks of a liberal democracy are regular free and fair elections, the rule of law, accountability of all public bodies and servants, an independent judiciary and a free press. Israel has all of these.

Now compare and contrast to the basket cases which surround her - police states, dictatorships, and assorted tyrannies, none of which have any of the above.

Your case is a joke.


mattpryor

27 January, 2011 - 10:42

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Exactly what I was about to write Amber!

The fact that Israel has maintained its democratic values in the face of relentless assault and ill-will (even from so-called friends) is nothing short of a miracle.

As for McCarthy - he was proved right wasn't he?


jose (not verified)

27 January, 2011 - 12:24

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Isn't it fantastic that some criticise so violently a democracy while they find nothing to be criticised in the surrounding religious and pseudo-secular dictatorships?

If they did not deny that they are antisemite, one could think they use double standards. One for Israel, another for the rest of the world.

And double standards are a sure sign of antisemitism.


amber

28 January, 2011 - 00:44

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The current suppresion of the demonstrations in Egypt tonight show what a joke this moronic blog by simonson is.


jose (not verified)

28 January, 2011 - 04:38

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The Muslim dictators want to distract our attention from their troubles, so tehy send us their 'useful' idiots to talk about Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East.
And they do it for free !


Jonathan Hoffman

28 January, 2011 - 06:13

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make that 'heard'......


Jonathan Hoffman

28 January, 2011 - 06:14

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we need a perview facility


Jonathan Hoffman

28 January, 2011 - 06:14

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preview rather...


mattpryor

28 January, 2011 - 09:50

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There used to be an "edit" facility on comments but it was being abused by that Moshe Zfarti bloke to make his comments always appear at the top so they disabled it.

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