Detention of children for immigration purposes


By MatthewHarris
December 16, 2010
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As the grandson of asylum seekers, I am pleased by Nick Clegg's announcement that children will no longer be held in immigration detention centres (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8204528/Nick-Clegg-ch...). This is a Liberal Democrat manifesto commitment and I am very proud that it is being implemented. No civilised country should lock up innoncent children.

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Jonathan Hoffman

17 December, 2010 - 07:42

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But what would hapen to Israeli children if Clegg's policy of an arms embargo on Israel was adopted by all countries?


jose (not verified)

17 December, 2010 - 08:19

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But what would hapen to Israeli children if Clegg's policy of an arms embargo on Israel was adopted by all countries?

Come on, Jonathan! They would only be killed.


Yehuda Erdman

17 December, 2010 - 10:26

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MtthewHarris
Nick Clegg is to be congratulated, it is barbaric to lock up children while the refugee status of their family is sorted out. We know the process can takes many months.
Jonathan Hoffman and jose have introduced the subject of Israel although the post is to do with asylum seekers in the UK.
Perhaps they have some comment on the way Israel has deported over 1000 children born to foreign residents in Israel because Israel did not wish to let these children stay even though they were born in the country and Hebrew is their first language. Perhaps this smacks of racism?


jose (not verified)

17 December, 2010 - 10:36

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Perhaps they have some comment on the way Israel has deported over 1000 children born to foreign residents in Israel because Israel did not wish to let these children stay even though they were born in the country and Hebrew is their first language. Perhaps this smacks of racism?

And you think you're smart? It is impossible to separate children from parents, that is forbidden by Geneva Conventions. Therefore, when the parents are expelled from the country, the children must go with them.
If children were not deported, Erdman would have pointed out how brutal and Nazi-like is Israel to separate children from parents!

Anyway, with Erdman, Israel loses all the time: "heads I win, tails you lose!" is the name of his game.


Yehuda Erdman

17 December, 2010 - 16:27

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jose
Don't put words in my mouth, if you have something sensible to say come out with it. It is not true to say that with me Israel loses all the time, you do not have a monopoly on Zionism and it's time you recognised that others are entitled to their own opinions and have the right to express them in the JC.


Yehuda Erdman

17 December, 2010 - 16:31

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I would also like to state that my parents were refugees from Nazi Germany and found refuge in Palestine in 1935. At that time very few countries were willing to take Jewish refugees from the Nazis as was evidenced by the Evian conference before World War II.
Despite jose's comment that it is impossible to separate children from their parents, perhaps he forgot about the Kindertransport when hundreds of Jewish kids were sent unaccompanied to the UK from Germany and Austria??


jose (not verified)

17 December, 2010 - 16:35

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Despite jose's comment that it is impossible to separate children from their parents, perhaps he forgot about the Kindertransport when hundreds of Jewish kids were sent unaccompanied to the UK from Germany and Austria??

Except that the Geneva Conventions were adopted in 1949... Poor Erdman: his thinking is a bit... problematic! And anachronic!


jose (not verified)

17 December, 2010 - 16:37

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you do not have a monopoly on Zionism and it's time you recognised that others are entitled to their own opinions and have the right to express them in the JC.

Well no, I don't have the monopoly of Zionism but you don't seem to have that article in stock.
And who is preventing you to voice your stupid answers such as the one I explained before? No one. Please go on, make my Shabbat!


mattpryor

17 December, 2010 - 16:45

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Despite jose's comment that it is impossible to separate children from their parents, perhaps he forgot about the Kindertransport when hundreds of Jewish kids were sent unaccompanied to the UK from Germany and Austria??

There is a slight difference between children being evacuated for their own safety and people being removed because they are not legally entitled to remain in the country Yehuda.


jose (not verified)

17 December, 2010 - 16:52

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Besides, as I already answered, the Geneva Conventions were adopted later, so they could not be applied in the case of the Kindertransports. If they had been applied, parents would have been saved as well as the children.
The example of Erdman is plain stupid.

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