Boycott The Tindersticks!


By mattpryor
November 25, 2010
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British alternative rock band The Tindersticks have cancelled a gig in Tel Aviv, scheduled for the 1st and 2nd of December, in response to "pressure exerted on [them] by people and organisations".

They have announced the cancellation on their website - http://www.tindersticks.co.uk

The band described being "not wholly convinced by [the BDS movement's] methods" - for those that are not aware, these methods include intimidation, threats and deceit - but agreeing with their aims. I wonder if they have given a great deal of thought to what those aims are exactly.

This move is being branded a "success" by the BDS movement, which seeks to sever cultural, economic and academic ties between Britain and Israel - the ultimate aim being to isolate Israel, prevent Israeli voices from being heard, and to add Britain to Israel's list of enemies, which currently includes shining lights of civilisation such as Chad, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Syria and North Korea. But other than these reactionary radicals and their pro-terrorist handlers, for whom this is undoubtedly a minor propaganda coup, who benefits?

Do the Tindersticks' fans in Israel benefit? Clearly not. In fact after this move I suspect the Tindersticks will have very few fans left in Israel.

Do those people in Israel that are working towards peace and reconciliation benefit? Hardly. If anything things like this make peace less likely. How can Israel's government take the difficult steps the world asks of them, endangering their national security, when so-called "allies" - the countries they are asked to trust to keep them safe from neighbourly aggression - behave like this?

Do the Tindersticks themselves benefit? Other than missing an opportunity to play in the third best city in the world, I'm sure there will be other consequences as well due to the ill will this will generate. I for one have deleted the one album of theirs that I had on my iPod in disgust and I encourage others to do the same.

Ultimately this serves as another example of the tragically self-defeating nature of BDS, which can only destroy friendships, bonds and goodwill, and will never lead to a lasting peace.

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telegramsam

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:27

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Who are these Tindersticks, M'lud? Are they some popular beat combo?


amber

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:29

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Matt, I think the aim of BDS is indeed to destroy friendships, bonds and goodwill. They are much more dedicated to hating Israel than loving Palestinian Arabs.

They couldn't care less about peace - it's just a weapon with which to attack the Jewish state.

I have to confess I'd never even heard of this bunch of cowardly losers (Tindersticks).


jose (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 13:16

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This BDS thing ridicules itself: these groups are not investments, quite the opposite. They are foreign workers that take Israeli money abroad, the contrary of an investment.
Therefore, intimidation by the BDS morons does not aim to divesting anything from Israel. It just shows they are pure Jew haters.
The money saved by Israelis can be put into real investments.

I totally support this BDS campaign to 'divest' foreign groups from playing in Israel. On the other hand, I support Israeli musicians playing abroad and paying taxes in Israel.


zair (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 13:49

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Thanks for flagging this matt, I have emailed the group to congratulate them on their brave and principled decision.


telegramsam

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 13:54

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I just Googled them. They are a bit miserabalist, aren't they? Don't suppose Tel Aviv is missing much through their absence.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 14:09

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Zair, you are pathetic! Thanks should be for saving Israeli money for investment purpose!


telegramsam

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 14:14

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Jose, a good point well made. But there is VAT on those ticket sales (what is it Israel now? 18 per cent?), as well as on any other merchandise.


amber

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 14:36

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Another one sentence statement of hatred from Zair.

What a sad individual.

Just for that Zair, I'm going to email them to tell them the opposite! I urge others to do the same.


zair (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 14:51

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'Just for that Zair, I'm going to email them to tell them the opposite! I urge others to do the same.'

Ooh I'm scared. I am sure they will consider your request with the seriousness it deserves.

PS. I have just sent a message to my list of 200 pro peace anti occupation campaigners to congratulate the band on its decision.


Jon_i_Cohen

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 14:55

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For Zair's benefit
my entire Facebook contact list of 2,000,000 have already e-mailed the band to say how dissapointed they are at the descision to succumb to extreme left wing pressure and not perform in Tel Aviv
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to expect a contact from zair and his 200 anti-semitic contacts, but to ignore it.


mattpryor

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 15:00

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Amber: Me too!


zair (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 15:24

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2 million contacts on FB, wow! Oh and does the 'i' in the middle of your name stand for 'idiot'


zair (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 16:02

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'bugger off you sad, sad tosser.'

Such colourful language, soap and water please.


amber

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 16:46

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Compare and contrast to Elton John and Paul McCartney, who were happy to go to Israel - and indeed, made a point of it. It seems these Tindersticks morons are simply concerned about their careers.

I hope Israelis spend their money on more deserving acts.


telegramsam

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 16:52

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Let's not forget Jonny Rotten, Linkin Park and Metallica, Amber.


telegramsam

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 16:57

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Just noticed this on Ynet about legendary Mancunian four-piece, The Fall.

The Fall asked to cancel Israel show

Protest held outside British rock band's London show. 'Don't play for apartheid,' says Facebook page
Or Barnea

A protest outside the doors of a London performance by The Fall called on the British rock group to cancel an upcoming show in Israel.

The Fall has scheduled its arrival for January 20, 2011, when it will appear at Tel Aviv's Barbie club.

The music website NME reported Tuesday evening that protestors gathered outside the Electric Ballroom in Camden to demand the band forgo its visit to Israel.

Similar protests were held at performances by Gil Scott-Heron in London, prompting the singer to cancel his show in Israel. NME also mentions other artists affected by anti-Israel sentiment, such as Elvis Costello and The Pixies.

But the lead singer for The Fall, Mark E. Smith, did not appear vexed and continued to perform as usual.

A Facebook site was also established to influence the band, calling itself "The Fall: Please don't play for apartheid Israel", which informs all who enter of additional protests to be held.


mattpryor

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 17:10

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Like they say on their website amber they "agree with their aims" - i.e. isolating and destroying Israel and converting it into an Islamic republic where Jews may or may not be tolerated.

They don't believe Israelis have a right to security, go to work without getting blown up, listen to music, interact with the rest of the world, build homes, have jobs, or lead normal lives.


amber

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 17:25

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Exactly Matt - it's a sick, sick mentality. Their hypocrisy becomes evident when it inevitably emerges that they don't boycott anywhere else - just the Jews.

The Gorillaz cancelled Israel but had no problem playing in Syria. The secret police state of Syria, with its torture chambers, political prisoners, support for terror groups and current genocide against the Kurds. Unfortunately many in the West are infected with it - the sick Zair being a case in point (an individual who delights in showing up on the JC to spout his/her/its hatred).

Let's be honest, one of its principal motivators is just old fashioned Jew hatred.


zair (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 17:33

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'Let's be honest, one of its principal motivators is just old fashioned Jew hatred.'

Oh shut up amber with your silly accusations. Can you not get it through that hateful thick skull of yours that it is about injustice, occupation and oppression. Of course other states engage in similar despicable actions, but here we are talking about Israel, get it?


zair (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 17:42

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'I have emailed all my contacts to that effect, and would urge everyone here to do the same.'

Oooh that will teach them. Don't forget to ask John (idiot) Cohen to email his 2 million contacts while your at it.

BTW what is/are common-or-garden antisemites, I've tried to google it but it just comes up with 'occasional knee jerk reaction of a zionist (of the rabid kind) when confronted with the truth'


mattpryor

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 17:59

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Zair:

When your people have been chased out of their homes, your women have been beaten naked in the streets, your babies mutilated and thrown into mass graves, your belongings stolen, your family murdered en masse by the states which were supposed to protect them, and you end up herded into a tiny strip of land, and those around you continue to threaten you, continue to wage war on you, continue to slaughter your kith and kin, continue to taunt you with the same filthy insults, degrade you, rub your face in your tragedy and blame you for it, then you can talk to Jews about injustice and oppression.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 18:00

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VAT on ticket sales? You mean 16.5%. Please, don't show the extent of your ignorance about Israel here!
So >4/5th for export and <1/5th remaining in Israel? So what happens is that Israel multiplies by five its cash availability in the operation! Of course <1/5th would have gone to the Israeli government, but what is the problem if the whole stays in Israeli banks? Do you think your money in your bank account is not useful to the bank and to the State?


jose (not verified)

Thu, 11/25/2010 - 18:04

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Zair is a negationnist of the worst kind. Even with the nose in the proofs of antisemitism, he would deny it exist. Certainly he thinks the same of the Shoah, so it is useless to remind him of what happened to Jews.
On the other hand, all European states observed a surge in antisemitic violence and it can only be linked to the hate propaganda forwarded by zair, tspam and their ilk.


zair (not verified)

Fri, 11/26/2010 - 00:38

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matt, the treatment of Jewish people over millennia has been among the most despicable episodes in human history, fact, no arguments.

I and others are talking about injustice and oppression happening today, so let's stick to that shall we?

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