Anti-Israel rhetoric in the Methodist Blogosphere


By mattpryor
November 10, 2010
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EDIT: Since this blog was posted the comment in question below has been published.

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More anti-Zionist (but of course not anti-Semitic) discourse among the bloggers of the Methodist Church:

http://theconnexion.net/wp/?p=8897#comments

The blog owner (Richard Hall) refused to publish this comment:

What I don’t think Richard Hall (or Paul Martin) quite understand is that the ONLY thing which will appease fundamentalist Islam is the dismantling of Israel and the evacuation or death of all Jews in the region. Until that happens there will always be a “resistance” to the “occupation” in the guise of Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, etc etc.

Some people think sacrificing Israel is a price worth paying if it keeps us in the UK safe in our beds. I do not.

Fundamentalist Islamic ideology does not tolerate other religions. Not Judaism and not Christianity. There are countless examples of this all over the world. Furthermore it does not tolerate political dissent. This is the same ideology that thinks acceptable forms of political activism are to bomb school buses, launch rockets into peoples’ homes, or to hold 700 school children hostage in Chechnya before murdering 200 of them.

The only salvation for people and institutions that do not “conform” to totalitarian Islamisist doctrines - that includes Christians, as well as Jews, homosexuals, women who do not wish to wear a full face veil and only speak when spoken to - is liberal, democratic Israel, which jealously protects the rights of its more vulnerable citizens through the rule of law and, when necessary, through military force. For that reason they are hated by those that wish them harm, and that hatred is poisoning the discourse on the subject.

Israel (much like Lebanon) is a dangerously vulnerable country with many disparate and frankly nasty groups having a vested interest in its demise. Those groups are winning. They - NOT JEWS - have the political leverage and the money to influence world opinion and government policy, and are prepared to use violence against people that do not agree with them in order to stifle dissent.

If people within the Methodist Church think that the correct way to show solidarity with Arab Christians is to lend support to the most radical elements of Palestinian society - those that call for economic attacks against Israel - then that is their choice. Personally I think it is a betrayal of more moderate voices, and is a dangerous and immoral stance which will ultimately cost lives and will destabilise the region beyond repair.

I don’t think they will realise what their efforts have achieved until the Church of the Nativity becomes a mosque. By then it will be too late.

I will end this post with a plea to those of fair mind reading this blog to seek out and listen to other points of view from the region - Christian or otherwise. There are plenty.

Kind regards

Why?

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Yoni1

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 18:05

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Sure, noooooo antisemitism at all, at all.

They really must imagine that all Jewish mothers have dumb kids.


mattpryor

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 18:11

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Yoni:

Surely you must know by now that you cannot accuse anti-Semites of anti-Semitism. To do so is to stifle debate. And it infringes on their human rights. To hate Jews is a human right you know, and Jew haters have just as much right to hate Jews as anyone else.

Furthermore you cannot ever mention the Holocaust when discussing Israel. Especially when discussing Israel with people that would quite like to see another Holocaust. To do so is to stifle debate and infringes on the Jew hater's human rights.

Refusing to publish comments supportive of Israel, however, is not stifling debate, it is protecting peoples' feelings - i.e. those of Jew haters and violent Jihadis who seek world domination.

Okay I think I get it now.


Yoni1

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 18:13

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:)

Actually, your comment there has now been cleared for publication.

And some of the comments show a remarkable grasp of Israel's situation.


mattpryor

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 18:32

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Yoni - we in Britain may be afraid - 52 dead commuters is quite an effective way of silencing people - but we're generally not stupid.


mattpryor

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 19:06

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My comment has indeed now been published and I retract my accusations against Richard Hall of attempting to silence me.


Yoni1

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 19:38

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Well, the Labour government was silenced into appeasement and indeed collusion, and some of its senior politicians are still continuing to collude - and the spineless leadership (yes, Milipede, that means you also) are responding by showing all the leadership qualities of a wet paper bag.

We'll see what the Tories do. So far, one vile antisemite has been banned from entering the UK.
Also, OfCom has shown more spine than Milipede - not that this says much - in finding against one antisemitic chyannel.

Still, chinless Dave and clueless Willy have been vilifying Israel for daring to defend herself.


mattpryor

Wed, 11/10/2010 - 19:48

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I agree Yoni, it's pretty appalling and doesn't instil me with confidence.

I wish the UK would follow Canada's example.


richardhall

Thu, 11/11/2010 - 11:52

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You retract the accusation and apologise in the comments, which is nice of you. But leave the headline and article, despite the fact that you've now admitted them to be untrue. How does that work?

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