Another Ring-Leader to be Punished for Destroying Gush Katif?


By Avraham Reiss
November 22, 2010
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Some time back I published an article pointing out that the majority of the ring-leaders responsible for the destruction and abandonment of Gush Katif, subsequently met with occurences that they would have willingly avoided - had this been possible.

I'm posting this now to add yet another "dignitary" to the list. Israel is about to appoint a new Chief of Police. A leading candidate is Uri Bar Lev. But boy, is he in trouble. He has been accused - and today was interrogated - by the Police! - for 4.5 hours regarding an accusation of sexual molestation. And while he was being interrogated, a second woman came forward and accused him of a second, separate case of sexual molestation. He is of course, innocent until proven guilty - this isn't Jose writing this post - but it would be very surprising if he now gets selected as the new Chief of Police. Possible, but very surprising.

And why is he relevant here? Because at the time of the destruction and abandonment of Gush Katif, Uri Bar Lev was head of the Police Southern Command, that handled the civilian aspects of the Gush Katif holocaust. He bears great responsibilty for the destruction.

The list:

Moshe Katzav – President of the State of Israel
Ariel Sharon – Prime Minister
Ehud Olmert – Deputy PM
Haim Ramon – Deputy PM
Dan Halutz – IDF Chief of Staff
Mosha Karadi – Chief of Police
Uri Bar Lev - Police Chief of Southern Comand

Some of those familiar with Israeli politics can already sense where I am going with this.

Moshe Katzav was President of the State of Israel at the time of the destruction of Gush Katif. He was subsequently forced to resign the Presidency in disgrace following accusations of sexual harassment. He is currently standing trial for these alleged offences, and may end up serving a prison term.

Katzav’s involvement in invoking retribution was (1) his not speaking up against the destruction and (2) on the first day of the destruction he appeared on TV beside Ariel Sharon, to give his active support to what Sharon was doing.

Ariel Sharon was Prime Minister at the time of the destruction of Gush Katif. Many years earlier, when Moshe Arens resigned from the position of Minister of Defense because he refused to destroy the town Yamit, Ariel Sharon took over from him – and razed Yamit to the ground. As Prime Minister many years later, the destruction of Gush Katif was his idea and his responsibility entirely. He suffered two strokes soon after the destruction and subsequent Gaza withdrawal and has been in a coma for a number of years. Neither the ground nor the Devil will receive him. This seems apt for a man who has enormous credits to his name in the building of the State of Israel. In the Six Day War he was one of the leading Generals in Sinai; he altered the course of the Yom Kippur War by crossing the Suez canal and moving the war to enemy territory; he did much to develop the Judean/Samarian (Western Bank) settlements; as Minister of Housing at the time of massive immigration from Russia, he ensured that every single immigrant found a roof over his head. He has many other credits to his name as well.

But the destruction of Gush Katif ways heavily over all these achievements – and Sharon lies in the balance: neither dead nor alive.

Ehud Olmert was Deputy Prime Minister at the time of the destruction of Gush Katif. Replacing Ariel Sharon as Prime Minister, he was subsequently forced to resign due to allegations of bribery and corruption, for which he is currently standing trial. Only recently a new bribery scandal (‘Holyland’ – what a misnomer!) broke in which he is hinted at being one off the major ‘recipients’.

Currently, Olmert is up to his neck in trials. But I am still waiting for the BIG one! The "light railway" scandal in Jerusalem hasn't even begun to appear yet, but since it cost milliards, and Olmert was the over-seeing Mayor most of the time ...

Haim Ramon was Deputy Prime Minister at the time of the destruction of Gush Katif. He later became Minister of Justice, and was subsequently forced to resign in disgrace following one accusation of sexual harassment. He was tried, found guilty, and sentenced to a few months labour at a horse stable. His trial and verdict were in fact seen to be the result of political machinations within the judicial system – he had made proposals for alterations in Israeli Law that were unacceptable to the heads of said system, and this was the way to ‘remove’ him. But the disgrace was well-earned.

Lieutenant-General Dan Halutz was the IDF Chief of Staff at the time of the destruction of Gush Katif. It was he who allocated many months of the IDF’s valuable resources on planning the destruction of Gush Katif and evacuation from Gaza. 20,000 soldiers and police were assigned to the ‘project’. It had been assumed by some that Halutz, formerly commander of the Air Force, had been selected by Sharon as Chief of Staff because Sharon was planning an offensive designed to thwart Iranian nuclear plans, and that obviously the Israeli Air Force would be one of the main components in such a project.

Halutz before his appointment as Chief of Staff, was regarded as extremely right-wing, following a number of comments he had made publicly. So right-wing, that when said appointment was announced someone from the Left petitioned the High Court of Appeals in an attempt to invalidate the appointment. The petition was rejected.

Not long after the destruction of Gush Katif the IDF – led by Halutz – conducted the 2nd Lebanon War. The execution was a failure – although it did in fact subdue Hizbollah – forcing Halutz to resign his position as Chief of Staff. Incidentally, Halutz remains recalcitrant regarding the manner in which he conducted the war. At a recent conference he said “If I had to repeat it, I would have done the same things again”. He was immediately followed at that conference by Major-General Moshe Kaplinski – Halutz’s Deputy Chief of Staff at the time of the War – who listed a number of errors that had been made during the war.

Moshe Karadi, Chief of Police at the time of the destruction of Gush Katif, resigned after dubious involvement in criminal activity. A committee appointed to examine the matter reached a majority decision that Karadi should not be asked to resign, but that he should not be offered the customary 4th year extension of his appointment. He resigned after the decision was announced.

It should be noted that Judaism has specific laws relating to the subject of Gush Katif. Maimonedes discusses the law of the Idolatrous City, which applies only in the Land of Israel. Such a city, under certain conditions of extreme idol-worship by a majority of inhabitants, is razed to the ground. BUT, if a city lies on one of Israel’s borders, it cannot be destroyed, and one cannot destroy three adjacent idolatrous cities, so as not to create a “bald patch” within the Land of Israel. So theoretically, even if the majority of the Gush Katif residents had been idol-worshippers, it would have been forbidden to destroy their villages. In fact, quite the opposite was true: in preparation for the destruction the Police Station at Neveh Dekalim – one of the larger settlements – was closed, and it was announced that NO criminal events had ever been recorded at that station. How many other villages can make the same claim?

All the 'calamities' that have befallen the Gush Katif ring-leaders: coincidence?

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jose (not verified)

22 November, 2010 - 16:41

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If you wait long enough, you will be able to claim that they all died ! And that it was divine punishment !

ROTFL !


mattpryor

22 November, 2010 - 16:47

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The Gush Katif evacuation was incredibly sad. What the Gazans did to the synagogues etc after the evacuation was awful.

The thought of the same thing happening to Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria is deeply, deeply depressing, and anyone that rejoices in the prospect utterly lacks empathy for fellow human beings.


jose (not verified)

22 November, 2010 - 16:50

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Nobody in his own mind would rejoice at what happened in Gaza, although it was the necessary ultimate test of the ability of 'Palestinians' to build a state.
What is laughable is the superstitious stupidity shown by Avraham.


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 16:56

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Matt:
"The thought of the same thing happening to Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria is deeply, deeply depressing, and anyone that rejoices in the prospect utterly lacks empathy for fellow human beings."

It won't happen. There are too many people there. It would lead to civil war, or at least strong armed resistance.

Jose, if you want to accuse someone of stupidity, although with the crap you keep on posting that sounds very hypocritical, at least state your reasons.

You are the kind of fool who, if he saw six accidents, all around the same connection, would deny the possibility of a seventh. I sincerely hope that you continue to live that way.


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 16:59

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"anyone that rejoices in the prospect utterly lacks empathy for fellow human beings"

- yeah, well, that's this jose git, who wrote: "ROTFL".

His lack of empathy is exceeded only by the number of pointless blogs he posts here.


jose (not verified)

22 November, 2010 - 17:20

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Avraham, you are ridiculous, that's you who has me ROTFL.
Always confused, with your pseudo-religious mind, aren't you?
I wonder if you are a real believer, in fact. I see only superstition in your esoteric belching.


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 17:30

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Of course that's what you see; with the lack of Jewish education that your parents gave you, you wouldn't recognize a mi-shebeirach if it came up and bit you on the


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 17:32

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... and of course, you had no reply to:
"Jose, if you want to accuse someone of stupidity, although with the crap you keep on posting that sounds very hypocritical, at least state your reasons."


jose (not verified)

22 November, 2010 - 18:31

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Avraham, don't keep thinking I have to answer to EVERY stupidity you write.
Superstition of divine punishment is stupid enough for anyone to see.


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 19:18

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Your blatant ignorance of Judaism is collosal. You probably can't even undertsand Rashi.

And the more blatantly ignorant you appear, the more opinionated you sound.

"Empty vessels make most noise".


Yoni1

22 November, 2010 - 19:24

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"What is laughable is the superstitious stupidity shown by Avraham."

He isn't known as 5%-wit for nothing.


Yoni1

22 November, 2010 - 19:25

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"Empty vessels make most noise"

How true. And the one screaming loudest on so many threads, especially this one, is Mr. 5%-wit himself.


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 19:26

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That Indian yoni girl airing herself again? 4 years in the IDF, when every other girl did 2 - and she still boasts about it?

Half-wit!


Yoni1

22 November, 2010 - 20:20

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Oh, go jump back into your cesspit. I am a man - and 10 times the man you are, little boy - and I served for 4 years.

Mind you, this little pisher doesn't even know that women can serve as long as they like, by signing for keva.


jose (not verified)

22 November, 2010 - 20:27

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Your blatant ignorance of Judaism is collosal.

I would prefer not to be Jewish than believe any of the superstitious stupidities you wrote. Fortunately you are no religious authority, being only able to parrot. You are totally clueless.

Yoni, this guy never made the Army, not in Israel if he ever put the foot on the Holy Land, not even in his country of origin. He has no understanding whatsoever of military strategy and even less of the politics in the Middle East.


Avraham Reiss

22 November, 2010 - 20:46

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Yoni, yeah, you served 4 years in a blogging unit in the Kiria, making tea for jose. MEN finished in 3.


Yoni1

22 November, 2010 - 21:50

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You pathetic little pisher.


jose (not verified)

23 November, 2010 - 04:03

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Name ONE superstition I wrote.

All beliefs in divine punishment is superstition.

I remember the same kind of idiot pretended that all those who would participate in the 'uprooting' would die of cancer.
Same kind of superstitious idiocy as you write.
Of course Sharon did not die, and if he does that will certainly not be of cancer. What if he ever wakes up? He will scare the hell out of you! LOL!


jose (not verified)

23 November, 2010 - 04:04

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Name ONE superstition I wrote.

All beliefs in divine punishment is superstition.

I remember the same kind of idiot pretended that all those who would participate in the 'uprooting' would die of cancer.
Same kind of superstitious idiocy as you write.
Of course Sharon did not die, and if he does that will certainly not be of cancer. What if he ever wakes up? He will scare the hell out of you! LOL!


jose (not verified)

23 November, 2010 - 04:04

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Name ONE superstition I wrote.

All beliefs in divine punishment is superstition.

I remember the same kind of idiot pretended that all those who would participate in the 'uprooting' would die of cancer.
Same kind of superstitious idiocy as you write.
Of course Sharon did not die, and if he does that will certainly not be of cancer. What if he ever wakes up? He will scare the hell out of you! LOL!


Avraham Reiss

23 November, 2010 - 10:44

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"All beliefs in divine punishment is superstition."

Ok, now we know exactly what you are - and are not.


jose (not verified)

23 November, 2010 - 11:57

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Ok, now we know exactly what you are - and are not.

There are two words that you should NOT use all the time:
"we" since you are only speaking of your less-than-half-wit opinion, and "know".
Avoid also using "are"/"is"/"be", because it seems to cause you some brain damage.


jose (not verified)

23 November, 2010 - 12:02

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Also avoid "exactly", as you do not seem to know the meaning either.

So I rephrase what you could have said:
"OK, now what you - and not."

Seems much more intelligent this way, doesn't it?

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