***Another Outrage from Jihad Jenny***


By Jonathan Hoffman
November 13, 2010
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Clegg's pathetic attempt to cosy the LDs up to the Jewish Community is exposed as a farce within days:

In yesterday's debate in the Lords on the Strategic Defence Review, Jihad Jenny Tonge said:


Prevention of conflict also means that we must start being honest about international law and UN resolutions. It is a disgrace to us all that problems such as Kashmir and Palestine are still alienating Muslims all over the world. The treatment of Palestinians by Israel is held up as an example of how the west treats Muslims and is at the root cause of terrorism worldwide. Even Tony Blair has now admitted this publicly. [JH: No he has not] Why do we let it continue? Is it Holocaust guilt? We should be guilty-of course we should. Is it the power of the pro-Israel lobby here and in the USA? I do not know. Or is it the need, maybe, to have an aircraft carrier called Israel in the Middle East from which to launch attacks on countries such as Iran? The cynic might think that that is why HMS "Ark Royal" and the Harriers can be dispensed with-we already have a static "Ark Royal" in a strategic position, armed to the teeth and ready to fight, provided that we do not offend Israel. I feel sorry for the people of Israel sometimes. Their Government's policies have made that country the cause of a lot of the world's problems, yet now they are seen in the middle as the remedy and the base for the west to fight back.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201011/ldhansrd/text/101112-0...

The Noble Jihadi Baroness seems to have a thing about Jews who defend themselves. Tough. She should go back to the bottom of the slimy pond whence she came.

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Jon_i_Cohen

13 November, 2010 - 11:05

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Appalling!
I shall be writing to Clegg the Pegg!


Watchful Iris

13 November, 2010 - 11:25

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Jonathan Hoffman: Even Tony Blair has now admitted this publicly. [JH: No he has not] Why do we let it continue? Is it Holocaust guilt?

Am I to understand that Jonathan Hoffman is familiar with every utterance that Tony Blair has ever made?


Yoni1

13 November, 2010 - 11:34

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"The treatment of Palestinians by Israel is held up as an example of how the west treats Muslims and is at the root cause of terrorism worldwide"

Such stupidity should be made illegal.
Or maybe she needs psychiatric treatment.

Re Iris: oh sheesh, another thicko. TB could not have 'admitted' it, because it's a LIE.


Jonathan Hoffman

13 November, 2010 - 11:50

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"Their Government's policies have made that country the cause of a lot of the world's problems"

I wonder when she will do a Lauren Booth and become Muslim.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 12:20

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Jonathan, do you have a problem with people converting to Islam? That doesn't sit very well for your self-proclaimed anti-racism credentials.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 12:21

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At least you are bringing a verbatim report here. Well done, but where's the Phillips transcript?


Harvey

13 November, 2010 - 12:27

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For Israel to be considered a " static Ark Royal " is praise of the highest order. The Ark Royal has had an illustrious [pardon the air craft carrier pun ]service career and protected Britain from the scourge of Nazism in turn allowing Ms Tongue the freedom today to make her continues vile and mendacious comments about Israel .

Thank you Ms Tongue for the comparison to the Ark Royal .The rest of your speech however should be consigned to the trash can .


richmillett

13 November, 2010 - 12:27

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Sam, why does one need a transcript of Phillips' when he has all but admitted it in his silence on that aspect of his speech?


Watchful Iris

13 November, 2010 - 12:31

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Lol Who's the thick one, Anthony?


Watchful Iris

13 November, 2010 - 12:32

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Erm....I mean Yoni...


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 12:37

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Then why do you go on about it, Jonathan? If you had no problem with it, it wouldn't feature so much in your blogs or responsa.


Yoni1

13 November, 2010 - 12:37

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No, Iris, it's you.
Jose=Joseph, Joe, Yossi.
Go away, vexatious pisher.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 12:39

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Rich, I cannot answer for Phillips, but Jonathan does havde form when it comes to making claims and crying wolf, and then having to issue a grovelling apology. All I am trying to do is spare him another embarrassment.


Yoni1

13 November, 2010 - 12:39

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Still waiting for the vile Tonge Minor (Spammy) to apologise for comparing me to the Gestapo.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 12:42

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Yoni, you are beginning to sound an awful lot like Jonathan. Now according to Avraham Reiss's Using Same Words Bill (2010), by writing the same abuse as Jonathan, you must be him. You are the grammar gestapo.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 12:45

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I am sorry, Yoni, that you appear to have had a sense of humour bypass. At least the operation was successful.


Jonathan Hoffman

13 November, 2010 - 13:04

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Spammo trolls, lies and defames without penalty here and never apologises.

He leads a charmed life here, Yoni1.

I wonder why.....


Watchful Iris

13 November, 2010 - 13:43

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Um....pardon me...you forgot scumbag. Carry on....


amie1

13 November, 2010 - 13:45

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Am I to understand that Jonathan Hoffman is familiar with every utterance that Tony Blair has ever made?
Watchful Iris: It is beyond the bounds of possibility that Tony Blair will have admitted anywhere that

"The treatment of Palestinians by Israel.. is at the root cause of terrorism worldwide"

Do you know what "root cause" implies? And worldwide?


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 14:03

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Poor Jonathan and his glove-puppet have been found out. That's why he's become abusive. That and because his bosses have decreed that they will fight the BNP/EDL, not stand with them.


Jonathan Hoffman

13 November, 2010 - 14:26

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What Yoni1 said at 13:11


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 14:44

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Diddums, Jonathan. Have you no demo this weekend? Has the rug been well and truly pulled out from under you?


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 14:46

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And knowing that the site is unmoderated over the weekend, you go super obnoxious


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 14:48

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Shabbat's out in Jerusalem in about 25 minutes so you'll have Avraham to back you up too


Harvey

13 November, 2010 - 14:53

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And me

Ditto Yoni at 13.11 and Jonathan @ 14.26


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 15:00

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As for the jc's motives, I wouldn't know except to say that perhaps they wants to see the back of you like rest of the sane Zionist movement.


Yoni1

13 November, 2010 - 15:19

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Standartenfuehrer Spammo, the little shit who called me 'Gestapo' even after I pointed out that my relatives were murdered by the Gestapo (not that any decent person would need that to refrain from using that insult), talks about 'obnoxious'.
Truly, once a shit, always a shit.

Thanks, Jonathan and Harvey - appreciated!


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 15:23

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Self-righteousness is so tiresome.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 15:26

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You probably watched Seinfeld and took offence at the soup Nazi reference too.


Jonathan Hoffman

13 November, 2010 - 15:29

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What Yoni1 said at 15:19


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 15:41

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Jonathan, congratulate yourself as much as you like. Very few people are fooled. If you and your alter-ego think you can get away with being abusive with impunity, you and it need to rethink the strategy


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 15:44

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And that is why sane zionists have had enough of you behaving like an unhorsed cosack or like the person who killed his parents and then moaned that he was an orphan.


jose (not verified)

13 November, 2010 - 15:49

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No one should have trouble with people converting to Islam, except of course when it is Bin Laden's version of Islam.
On the other hand, a lot of Muslims have trouble converting to anything, since in Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, etc., this carries death penalty.
Nothing to criticize about that for the anti-'zionist' crowd: it is much more fashionable to criticize Israel's democracy, right?


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 15:56

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No, jose, criticising people for converting to Islam puts those who do the criticising in the same camp as the anti-democrats.


jose (not verified)

13 November, 2010 - 16:00

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Not criticising Islam for threatening, and sometimes killing, apostates puts you in the same camp as the Inquisition.


Yoni1

13 November, 2010 - 16:22

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Jose, we have already established that Spammo is a Nazi sympathiser. Being in the same camp as the Inquisition is very small beer in comparison.


jose (not verified)

13 November, 2010 - 16:25

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I was just using the same rhetoric as tsam. Maybe he will learn not to go ad hominem, after a little training.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 16:43

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And perhaps Jonathan/Yoni1 will learn not to go all abusive when they are found out. And that he/they can't do it with impunity. With a little training he/they may learn this vital lesson, that is.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 16:44

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Actually, Jose, any religion that kills apostates is despicable. But thanks for asking.


Avraham Reiss

13 November, 2010 - 16:44

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Watchful Iris
"Am I to understand that Jonathan Hoffman is familiar with every utterance that Tony Blair has ever made?"

Don't you get it yet? The moment you start hounding Jonathan H, you give yourself away as just another telegramsam pseudonym, in an attempt to "prove" that several people think his way.

Childish and ineffective to say the least.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 16:47

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Ha, ha. They seek him there. They name him there. But they are wrong everywhere.


Avraham Reiss

13 November, 2010 - 16:48

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telegramsam:
"Jonathan, do you have a problem with people converting to Islam? That doesn't sit very well for your self-proclaimed anti-racism credentials."

Jonathan is quite right. When violent Israel-haters join Islam , they are obviously going to join Islamic terrorists. That's not anti-racism; us normal people call it self-defense.

And by the way, telegramsam, we'd like to see a transcript of your parents' marriage ceremony. Until we do, we are going to have to assume ...


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 16:51

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Avraham, grow up. Silly boy.


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 16:52

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Did it take you all Shabbat to think that one up? My sides are splitting. You know what they say about those who posel be moumo?


telegramsam

13 November, 2010 - 16:55

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Any news from Ovadia and Eli yet, Avraham? Have they whispered in your ear over Shabbat? Or are you waiting for the great drashah at Yahveh De'ah?


Avraham Reiss

13 November, 2010 - 16:56

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telegramsam:
"Poor Jonathan and his glove-puppet have been found out."

FANTASTIC! Just this week someone emailed me that moshetzarfati2 z"l used to use the term "glove-puppet", and that they were waiting for telegramsam to do so.

Thanks!

N.B. Anthony Posner wrote to me that he was banned from these blogs because he claimed that telegramsam is moshetzarfati, and even sent a copy of an email to him from the JC telling him to stop doing so.

So please note, JC, that I am making no such claim, just pointing out that the same rare combination of words has appeared under two differemt JC bloggers' names.

And so we sadly leave the fascinating world of scoobies and glove-puppets, and unwillingly return to the harshness of reality ...


Jon_i_Cohen

13 November, 2010 - 16:57

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Lauren Booth "Dishonest reporter of the Year 2008"
Converts to Islam.

This is an excellent advert for conversions to Islam.

http://backspin.typepad.com/backspin/2010/10/lauren-booth-converts-to-is...

perhaps telegramsham/spam and watchful iris should join Booth - I am sure they would be made most welcome in Iran.


Jeremy Havardi

13 November, 2010 - 17:00

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Sending her back to the slimy pond? That is offensive to rotting pond life.


jose (not verified)

13 November, 2010 - 17:04

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"Actually, Jose, any religion that kills apostates is despicable. But thanks for asking."

Name two, tsam! Thanks for answering!


Yoni1

13 November, 2010 - 17:28

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"Avraham, grow up. Silly boy"

Did it take you the whole period of the Third Reich to think that up, Obergruppenfuehrer?

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