A priestly malediction


By Geoffrey Paul
August 30, 2010
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I hope that leading rabbis, and not only Israeli ones, will raise their voices in total condemnation of the sickening, criminal even, outburst by the former Sephardi chief rabbi of Israel and current Shaas leader, Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef. According to Israeli press reports, in a Shabbat sermon he referred to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian people as “our enemies and haters... May they vanish from the world, may God smite them with the plague, them and the Palestinians, evil-doers and Israel-haters.” It is to the credit of Prime Minister Netanyahu that he immediately condemned the outburst. Yosef's purpose is certainly not to help the Prime Minister make Israel's case in the Washington peace talks which are imminent - Shaas is a major component of the coalition government which would have to endorse any peace deal signed with the Palestinians and brokered by the Americans. Jews have experienced enough vicious race hatred and incitement to genocide without suffering its utterance by one who is graced with the title of "spiritual leader" and who was for years a major teacher and scholar of Jewish thought. The only excuse that can be made for him is senility. There cannot be any other.

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telegramsam

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 16:18

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Nobody will do anything about this old goat. He's protected by shas and even brave bibi is only brave enough to distance himself from the comments but not condemn them as the call for genocide that they are. Now if someone had said that about Jews or israel (as indeed imadinnerjacket reputedly did) the screamers here would be screaming blue murder.


Macairt

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 17:27

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'Now if someone had said that about Jews or israel (as indeed imadinnerjacket reputedly did) the screamers here would be screaming blue murder.'

It regularly is said, in Arabic, in the Palestinian Authority Friday night sermon, and elsewhere. And no one says or does jack.

But that doesn't excuse Yosef's execrable, likely criminal utterances.


happygoldfish

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 20:09

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shas has four cabinet ministers ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shas )

according to todays' haaretz (U.S. issues sterner condemnation of Ovadia Yosef comments than Netanyahu), shas chairman and interior minister eli yishai has …

… instructed all party members not to make any public statements about the sermon.

shas cabinet ministers should condemn this hatred, and so should netanyahu

the israeli government cannot realistically negotiate peaceful coexistence if it has members who will not do so


ibrows

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 20:15

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telegramsam

Your totally right, if it had been said about Jews, 'distancing yourself' from the comment would be deemed a totally unacceptable response. and indeed blue murder would be raining down on these pages.

Good to see there are still no double standards on the jc blog


Macairt

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 01:03

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Palestinian Authority Friday Sermon, February 2nd 2010:

"Palestine was subjected to a loathsome occupation of its land and holy places by these neo-Mongols, who perpetrated, on this holy, blessed, and pure land, acts of killing, assassination, destruction, expropriation, Judaization, harassment, and the fragmentation of the homeland.

"This is clear evidence of the hatred they harbor, and of their unparalleled racism. This is the Nazism of the 20th [sic] century.

"The Jews are the enemies of Allah and His messenger. They are the enemies of Allah and His messenger, the enemies of humanity in general, and of the Palestinians in particular. They are fighting us with all types of crime, and even the mosques have not been spared their racism.

"For the people who laid traps for the prophets of Allah – arrested them, killed them, and deceived them – it is a thousand times easier to lay traps for the followers of these prophets. Our mutual enmity with the Jews is a matter of faith more than an issue pertaining to occupation and land. [...]

"Jews will always be Jews. Even if donkeys cease to bray, dogs cease to bark, wolves cease to howl, and snakes cease to bite, the Jews will not cease to be hostile to the Muslims.

"The Prophet Muhammad said: 'Whenever two Jews find themselves alone with a Muslim, they think of killing him.' Oh Muslims, this land, these holy places, and these mosques will only be liberated when we return to the Book of Allah, and when all Muslims are prepared to become mujahideen for the sake of Allah, in support of Palestine, its people, its land, and its holy places."

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3946.htm

I don't recall a fuss. There rarely is. It's taken for granted this is the sort of stuff PA and Hamas preachers churn out. You can research it yourself. Here is just a taste:

http://www.memri.org/search/en/advanced/239/0/0/0/0/0/0/0.htm?k=sermon+j...

Clearly some people hold Arabs and Muslims to a lower standard.

None of which, I have to say, excuses Ovadia Yosef.


ibrows

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 08:20

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Macairt

where do you find these wacky links, some random website making ridiculous claims, can hardly be compared to this Rabbi whose support Netanyahu desired within government.


happygoldfish

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 08:52

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ibrows, how can you deny the truth of a video you can actually watch?

ibrows, macairt's link isn't to a "random website" making a "ridiculous claim", you can watch the video of those excerpts from the friday sermon delivered at bourin mosque in nablus on January 29, 2010, which aired on palestinian authority tv, at http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2367.htm


Joshua18

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 12:32

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"Now if someone had said that about Jews or israel (as indeed imadinnerjacket reputedly did) the screamers here would be screaming blue murder."

Unsurprising that an anti-Semite would become indignant at the fact that Jews are concerned about anti-Semitism.


Joshua18

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 12:36

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Compared to various senior members of Churchill's war cabinet, he is a veritable angel:

Memorandum of Conversation by Mr. Harry L. Hopkins, Special Assistant to President Roosevelt regarding a meeting with Anthony Eden March 27, 1943

"Four months after the State Department confirmed the dimensions of the Holocaust, British Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden met in Washington with President Roosevelt, Secretary of State Cordell Hull and Undersecretary of State Sumner Welles. At this meeting, Eden expressed his fear that Hitler might actually accept an offer from the Allies to move Jews out of areas under German control. No one present objected to Eden's statement."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/holocaust/filmmore/reference/primary/index....

We Jews need no lessons in morality from the British.


telegramsam

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 12:39

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It appears that Joshua condones the old goat's call for genocide. Colour me unsurprised.


Advis3r

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 16:35

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Once again the pygmies including Mr Paul make the mistake of speaking out against a Torah great. In Jewish liturgy even Liberal Jewish liturgy Jews invoke Heavenly assistance in vanquishing our enemies. Mr Abbas is a holocaust denier who lauds terrorists including the master mind behind the Munich Olympics massacre as such he is for all his blabber an enemy of the Jews. if you would take the trouble to find out what HaRav Ovadiah Yosef Shlita actually said - not the Haaretz version you will see he was repeating the liturgy said on the eve of Rosh hashanah in many Jewish households which calls on the Almighty to rid us of our enemies - he did not as the Arabs disingenuously claim call for a genocide of the Palestininas only for the destruction of their corrupt leaders and the terrorists who would kill Jews. Unfortunately some sections of British Jewry have become so brainwashed by the British media and the Israeli Left anti-Israel media that they believe any nonsense they come up with.


ibrows

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 17:17

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Advis3r

nonsense, absolute nonsense, you couldn't make this stuff up (how do you manage to make this ridiculous stuff up).

straight back at you - I am posting a letter to Abbas, with your libelous fabricated claims, that are totally unfounded. You claim he is a 'Holocaust denier', simply to try and discredit him (I am no fan of Abbas, but this is a ridiculous unfounded claim you make).

Advis3r we can see now why your defending this rabbi's extremist views, as you yourself are an extremist, making ridiculous and unfounded statements against those you dislike.


Macairt

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 17:31

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'Macairt
where do you find these wacky links, some random website making ridiculous claims, can hardly be compared to this Rabbi whose support Netanyahu desired within government.'

What are you talking about?

The quoted section is the from the Palestinian Authority Friday Sermon. The rest are either the Hamas Gaza Friday Sermons, or from broadcasts by the P.A. or Hamas.

Of course it's comparable, you ignorant, racist orientalist, who clearly demands less of Arabs and Muslims than he or she does of Israeli Jews.


Advis3r

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 20:04

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@ibrows - on Deborah Lipstadt's blog quote: He did engage in denial when he wrote his Ph.D. thesis in the early 1980s in Moscow. More recently he has said that were he writing it now he would not have said what he did [there were only 1,000,000 victims etc.]. Abbas also proposed in that thesis the sickening, bizarre claim that the Holocaust was a joint Zionist-Nazi plot. He wrote: "The Zionist movement led a broad campaign of incitement against the Jews living under Nazi rule, in order to arouse the government's hatred of them, to fuel vengeance against them, and to expand the mass extermination."
Now apologise!
PS I note you do not deny that Abbas supports terrorists naming city squares after them.


Advis3r

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 20:28

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I have noted all the approbation poured on me for having the temerity to defend Harav haGaon Ovadiah Yosef. May I point out to you ignoramouses that on the first night of Rosh Hashanah symbolic foods are eaten for blessings for the coming year of these the following are pertinent to this thread:
The word for the third food, "Karsi," leeks or cabbage, sounds like the word "kares," "to cut off/destroy." We therefore say a Yehi Ratzon (a request to Hashem) that asks "may... our enemies be destroyed."
The word for the fourth food, "Silka" or beets, sounds like the "siluk," meaning "removal." We therefore say a Yehi Ratzon that requests "may our adversaries be removed."
The word for the fifth and final food "Tamri" or dates, sounds like the word "sheyitamu," "that they be consumed." Hence, we sat a Yehi Ratzon that implores "may... our enemies be consumed."
Living in your nice comfortable homes in the Garden Suburb etc you are so far removed from what we face in Israel that you even blanche at the thought of invoking the Amighty to help rid us of the enemy that seeks our very destruction and that includes Mr M Abbas or Abu Mazen to give him his correct title.There is strong evidence that Abu Mazen, the new Palestinian prime minister – who was Yasser Arafat’s loyal deputy for four decades but now supposedly makes decisions independently of Arafat – was one of the chief architects of the terrorist attack that killed 10 Israeli athletes and one American (David Berger) at the 1972 Olympic Games in Munich, Germany.

Mohammed Daoud Oudeh, or Abu Daoud, the coordinator of the Munich attack claimed in 2003 that Abu Mazen provided the funds and instructions to carry it out. Daoud first made this charge to a non-Arabic audience in his 1999 French language memoir, “Palestine: From Jerusalem to Munich.” He repeated it again in an interview in August 2002 with Sports Illustrated magazine. In his Sports Illustrated interview Abu Daoud stated: “Today, the Bush Administration seeks a Palestinian negotiating partner ‘uncompromised by terror,’ yet last year Abu Mazen met in Washington with Secretary of State Colin Powell.”


telegramsam

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 20:54

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That's right, mr ayalon's adviser, you defend the old goat's call for genocide. No wonder your boss's party is on a par with the BNP. And worse.


telegramsam

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 20:55

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That's right, mr ayalon's adviser, you defend the old goat's call for genocide. No wonder your boss's party is on a par with the BNP. And worse.


Anonymous

Mon, 09/06/2010 - 15:33

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